Wednesday, April 14, 2010

Do You Know How to Disappear?

Folks: Today we have a real treat. Bring the questions on! If you have ever wondered how to find the guy who gets away, or lose your characters around the world, this is the man who can tell you how. Frank M. Ahearn has been hunting people down for over twenty years. His philosophy has been-- if you can afford it, he can find them, or lose them. The notches on his skip tracing belt are slashed with over fifty-thousand names that read like a who’s who of celebrities, wealthy, notorious and the down-right dangerous.

Frank was hired to monitor OJ Simpson’s assets while he stood trial for murder. Roadway trucking brought in Frank to assist when the Oscars were stolen, law enforcement only knew him as the guy from New York. When Santee Kimes cast her murderous voodoo on socialite Irene Silverman, Frank was called into the search as a last minute hope. Hired by a tabloid to find the whereabouts of a woman, Frank jumped on board and located her hiding from the public. Three hours later Monica Lewinsky and her scandal was introduced to the world.

Frank now works with clients who need to disappear and is co-author of How to Disappear. He legends have appeared in over fifty newspaper and magazines worldwide plus he has spilled his guts on over one hundred radio stations from Fiji to Finland.

Would you join me in welcoming him to Mysteries and Margaritas?


Cassy- What is skip tracing?

Frank- Skip tracing is locating people for many reasons—be it debt, tracking a thief, conman or searching for a lost love.

There are different types of skip tracers, some are what we call database hounds who only use public data and try to track people (snore). Then there are skip tracers who used pretext, which is lying for a living to get what you need.

I was the skip tracer who had a great knack for pretext so I would hit up the phone companies, utility companies and banks to get information. Pretext is a matter of posing as a person in the company or the actual subject I was hunting. From those companies I would get phone records, account records, employment, contact and what ever else the company stored. From that information hunt you down.

Cassy- What led you into skip tracing?

Frank- I always say I was unemployable elsewhere but in my early twenties, I bounced from job to job and landed at an investigative company. I was doing well there but the guy in the back was doing skip tracing and I found it intriguing and asked my boss if I could do the skip tracing. He said no. I countered with a “What if I get a copy of your phone records?” he laughed and said if I did that he would fire the other guy and give me his job. Well come Friday, I was the new office skip tracer.

Cassy- And, helping people disappear?

Frank- The disappearing came years later when I was in a bookstore and saw a guy buy offshore banking books and books about Costa Rico and paid via credit card. I thought it was silly that he was buying books about discretion and paid via something that could be tracked.

In the café, I introduced myself, explained what I did for a living, and shared how a skip tracer like me could track him down via his credit card purchases. A few days later, he contacted me and asked if I could teach him how to disappear. I really thought about what one would have to do and then I came up with the three keys of disappearing which are Misinformation, Disinformation and Reformation.

Cassy- Who are your clients? I am actually asking, who needs to disappear and why?

Frank- They range from victims of stalkers to celebrities needing more insulation from the public. It used to be when men contacted me it was a money issue and woman a safety issue from a stalker or ex, however, that seems to have changed. The female clients are now high-end business people interested in travel safety and abduction protection.

Disappearing is different to people, some see it as running off while others see it as a new start. Clients either have lost everything and are looking to leave a world behind and others came into money and are still looking to leave a world behind.

Overall people disappear because of money or safety!

Cassy- If I were to need/want to disappear, what do I need to do? What preparations do I have to make?

Frank- MISINFORMATION is the art of taking every piece of data that exist about you, deviating it and destroying it beyond recognition. The purpose for that is when a PI starts searching for you they will have various types of information about you. Be it a credit report, an old address, bank records, etc.

Your home phone number lists every call you have ever made over a period of time, your cellular phone as well. Your frequent flyer account with an airline lists every trip you logged. Car rental companies keep track of whom you are by your phone number, which leaves a record of every car you rented. Video stores keep your records by phone number, a good skip tracer can do a little social engineering and pretext the store and find various information about you. Your local Internet provider lists every website you have surfed.

DISINFORMATION is making the PI’s file thicker. Disinformation has three parts: Hook, Line & Sinker. The hook is to bring a PI into an area of choosing and have them start searching for the subject. The line is having them find information about my subject. The sinker is having the PI believe he’s on the trail of my subject and keep trying to reel them in.

Disinformation is my favorite part when it comes to teaching someone how to disappear. To me it is the sneaky aspect of leaving the breadcrumbs for the PI to find or who ever is looking for my subject. Disinformation makes the file thick and eventually causes mass confusion.

REFORMATION is the action of taking my client from point A to point B. Our goal is to be confident that who ever is searching for my client does not find them. Before I work with a client a few things I need to know, one: are they staying in the country or not.

If I am working with a client who is looking to go offshore, I need to know how THEY plan to expatriate their money. I am not an attorney nor an accountant so I do not give advice in those matters. I am very cautious in this area since there is a lot of legality and I do not want to aid anybody in money laundering.

Cassy- Once you have relocated me, how do I live my life? What do I give up? How can I find a job, a house, a sense of self?

Frank- You live your life normally, as if you simply relocated for a new job. You need to give up certain habit or social aspects like bowling team, writing clubs and other groups that keep membership information. When skip tracing a person, those are some of the thing we look for, especially if it is a national organization that keep list of members.

Employment can be an issue if you are a licensed professional like a doctor, lawyer or limo driver. However if it is a matter of safety I am sure one would not mind so much finding a new profession.

As far as a home. if you buy one it could be an issue unless you can buy property outright and shield under a corporation, If you are renting you can rent using a corporation name or even sublet where no lease exist.

Cassy- What are the major mistakes people make when they try to disappear?

Frank- They forget about the information they leave behind. Such as contact number on a utility bill, forwarding address left at employment for the final paycheck. They forget about places they emailed since email can be accessed, they forget about calls they made several months back to their new city of location. The problem with “just” disappearing is the information you leave behind can catch up with you.

Cassy- What catches us unaware that might make it easy to be found?

Frank- I don’t think it is anything in particular, skip tracing is not science where you go from A to B. It’s more like a frenetic rollercoaster where ideas pop in your head and you search that direction.

I was hunting some dead beat and for the life of me could not locate him. I went back to my client who told me he was a car buff who enjoyed autos from the fifties. I started hitting up magazine subscriptions claiming to be him and did not get my last magazine. Eight magazines later, I got a hit and located him in Atlanta.

Cassy- Do you stay in touch with people you have helped? Do they need your continued support to keep up the deception in their new lives?

Frank- I never stay in touch, not interested in being a baby sitter. I think if they use the tools and stick to the rules, they will be ok.

Cassy- We all love a good story. What was the wildest craziest case you have taken? Of course, names are not necessary.

Frank- Gosh, there are so many, where to begin, hmm….

I was sitting in my office one day when a client called me and asked if it was possible to teach someone how to disappear. My answer was no doubt yes, so he asked me how. It’s as if he wanted me to give him a checklist of things to do. At that point, I told him he should just buy a book and give to his client.

A few days later, a call came again from the same client and he asked if I would meet with his client to discuss teaching her how to disappear. I agreed. We set a meeting for the following week. I figured we would meet, have coffee, chat away, or they would buy me dinner. Wrong!

My client told me the general area we would be meeting, so that evening I made my way toward the destination. I got a call my contact and his clients were at a nearby motel. In the room, my client greeted me and a woman with an accent. Her name was Jane. After we got the formalities out of the way, Jane told me her story.

Jane was independently wealthy and an active animal-rights activist. She told me she brought lawsuits against several animal farms resulting in jail time for the people involved in cruelty acts. I asked her to clarify exactly who, what and where she refused and left it at that.

Jane continued to tell me there were threats made on her life; dead chickens on her property and most recently a slaughtered calf. My client interjected a pipe bomb was found on Jane’s property as well. Jane took all of these threats seriously, as she should. I asked about her financial situation; how she planned to make a living. She explained she was living off a European trust and was divorced so money was no problem.

As I sat listening to this woman, the first thought in my head was, “she is rather calm about this.” It felt as if she were telling me things she thought about but not things she actually experienced. I probed more. I asked to see her wallet and she flat out said no. I asked to see only her driver’s license and she said no. Finally, I asked for her Social Security Number, she refused. Considering this woman wanted my help, she was not being too cooperative.

I expressed my concerns with the situation and wanted her to explain why she was being so defiant. Her explanation was she worked for the government, work of some kind that made absolutely no sense to me. She had a top-secret security clearance and the government issued her a new identity.

When things get elaborate, I get cautious.

Jane revealed more stories of growing up in castles, having servants, and so forth. In her conversation, she mentioned a town in the UK where I had been several times. I made an open-ended comment about the town that should have prompted some type of response. She ignored my statement making me think she was never there.

The nutshell of our conversation was, she was rich and wanted to move so the animal people couldn’t find and kill her. The meeting ended on a cordial note and both parties stated we’d be in touch. My client walked me to my car and before he spoke, I said, “She’s full of shit!” My client tried to convince me she was the real thing. He saw dollar signs but I saw trouble. The meeting made me very uncomfortable and I felt like I was being played.

I had enough experience with people to know she was not from the state we met in, so I drove around the motel parking lot looking for a car with out of state tags. There was no such car in the lot. It was an isolated area, so I drove to the diner down the road. There I found a car bearing Pennsylvania tags and copied down the number.

Next day in the office, I had someone run the license plate. We came up with the same last name but a first name of Mike. I gave Eileen the information I knew about Jane.

Jane X

Bensalem, PA

Lawyer

Divorced

Millionaire child

Eileen worked on the phone and found out Jane X was dead but was married to Mike X. Turns out Mike X is an attorney in the small town. Eileen figured out the woman I met was Joan X and was assuming her deceased sister’s identity.

Eileen then contacted the press secretary for the wealthy European family. She said she was writing a small piece on the family and had a simple question about the ages of the siblings. Jane/Joan did not meet the age range of any of the children and all of them worked for their company. Nor was there a Jane or Joan in the family.

I asked my client for Jane’s cell number, promising not call her. Eileen determined it was a prepaid cell phone. Imagine that a wealthy aristocrat using a prepaid cell; I don’t think so. The only calls on the bill were to my client. Eileen then pretexted Mike X, the alleged husband, and acquired his cell phone number, as well as all the phone numbers in the house.

My client’s only point of contact with Jane was the prepaid cell phone he provided me. When we called the house, one answering machine stated you reached Mike X. The other answering machine stated Joan X and it was the same voice as the woman I met, sans the British accent.

Eileen investigated further by contacting the local police. She found there were never any complaints of pipe bombs or animals tossed on anybodies property in the town. With all this evidence, I called my client and told him everything. To make a long story short, he still saw the dollar signs. I told him I wanted nothing to do with this woman.

You are probably wondering why this woman was doing this. Eileen and I were wondering the same. Eileen was able to pretext someone to get a little history on the woman. Turns out, she had a mental illness. Moral of the story is, know thy client!

Cassy- I’m not sure where to go from here after a story like that, but I’ll try. You often work with writers to help the stories be accurate and interesting. You are very generous with your time. I can speak to that. What drew you to the world of publishing?

Frank- I like writers because all fiction is a form of deception and I like deception. Also I feel that I can be honest about the things I have done in this crazy business and not have to worry that I am sharing it with some lunatic going to use my information for crime. In addition, I have met some great people, which is the best score!

Cassy-Tell us about your website and the kind of information you offer.

Frank- The site is www.disappear.info it has various information about disappearing, people who faked their death and some cool gadgets. Anyone have any questions just drop me an email and mention the blog and I will be more then happy to help.

Thank you all! Frank

Cassy- Frank, we thank YOU!

41 comments:

Kari Lee Townsend said...

what an amazing interview, Frank and Cassy!

Such great stories. Now I'm trying to think of a way to make someone dissappear in one of my books. Very cool stuff.

And thanks so much for sharing your website and offering to answer questions in the future. I'll definitely take you up on it someday :-)

Cassy Pickard said...

Kari: Thanks for you comments. Frank is awesome. I've heard him speak, exchanged emails, and picked his brain. I plan on continuing to do so. He is very generous with his time and his information.

Sorry, Frank, I just set you up for a storm of requests.

Steve Liskow said...

Wow! Fascinating and informative. I'm definitely going to be able to use some of Frank's advice in my writing. Thank you for posting this. And thank you to Frank for sharing his knowledge.

Cassy Pickard said...

Steve: Good to "see" you here. Get Frank started and you'll be hearing stories that not only keep going, but get your plotting ideas going. Pretty neat stuff for those of us who worry about murder and mayhem!

Ellis said...

Very timely for me. My main character needs to disappear and start a new life. I'll check Frank's website. Thanks!

Hank Phillippi Ryan said...

Whoa--fascinating!

When you do pretexting--do you ever get talked into a corner? What do you do--hang up?

Thanks so much for the fabulous info..

Liz Lipperman said...

Wow! I could have read on forever with his stories. I will definitely keep him in mind the next time I need to "disappear" someone.

As for me, I am going to be really careful about my personal history, knowing Frank is out there!!

Thanks so much to both Cassy and Frank for this great interview.

Mary Martinez said...

Thank you, Frank for joining M&M with your wonderful information. I had a riot reading it. AND as a writer all kinds of plots came to mind I could use in my new Key West series. LOL.

Oh and I worked for the phone company for years and people like you could get me fired! We had to be very careful because stalkers would call to find out where their victims lived and one time one of our new employees gave out information that landed someone in the hospital.

If people want their phone records protected they need to add a security code. The bad thing, most customers service reps are into the account and telling things they shouldn't before they see the account flag to ask for a the code. Happens all the time.

Thank you again, this was a great post!

Lesli Muir Lytle said...

What a fun interview!

Makes me want to write a mystery, but I'll just settle for making some of my characters a little more devious!

Lesli Muir Lytle

Frank said...

Hello Hank,

The key to pretext is talking the other person into a corner with mindless enjoyment. We call it taking them away from their day. We talk about surfing, vacations and other things the person might interact with and they we lay it on them.

We try not to hang up when we call a customer service department since they note the account and too many hang ups will mark it up.

Frank said...

Hello Mary,

I hate to disappoint you but security codes on accounts do not always work. If I needed a copy of a subjects phone records I had two choices pretext the local carrier which had copies of the long distant bill or I could hit the long distant carrier and all they were concerned with was selling a better plan.

Pretexting is chipping away at the stone, it is like dating every no leads to a yes. I was good listener and always tuned into the background noise on the call and would hear amazing information. In time I learned all of the systems used like premis, boss, wang, icris, stand alone, etc. Tell me what company you worked with and I will tell you what they used.

Mary Martinez said...

Frank,
Oh I know what you mean about the sale. I am SO not a sales person. I was the one who was meticulous about protocol and making sure the customer was safe. I was shocked that ex's actually would call to have the phone service turned off on their ex husband/wife just for spite. A lot of things shocked me.

But the guys/gals who were all about the sale never took the time. So I can completely understand that there are ways around. And a lot of people use security codes that any who knew them would figure out.

I worked for U.S. West (MA Bell) and then it was bought by Qwest and still is. I call it the Devil Place. I loved working there when it was U.S. West. Once it changed hands it was terrible and my life is much better without Qwest. Except they're my internet DSL provider. LOL

Thanks Frank for all the information!
Mary

Nina Pierce said...

Fascinating. I could have read for hours. I can only imagine listening to you speak in person, Frank. Thanks so much for sharing this with us. I'll definitely keep this in mind next time I need to make someone disappear ... in a book. *g*

Frank said...

Mary,

Actually US West , Pac Bell in CA and SNET in CT were the most difficult companies to get information from. However, when they merged all the call centers it made pretext easier.

I feel like I am strolling down telephone memory lane.

Frank said...

Social networks are a great place for information. A trick we call the Facebook search is when we are having a problem locating a subject. If we locate a family members Facebook account we keep hitting refresh and it shows new faces of family and friends. We then pretext those individuals to locate the subject.

If your looking to disappear of be more private you need to get rid of all social networking sites. However, a bigger problem is the information other post about you like on Myspace.

Mary Martinez said...

Frank,
I know what you mean. U.S. West was more customer oriented and protective. Qwest under Joe Nachio was all about the money and who cares if a few customers are thrown under the bus. Still are. I hate calling to do anything cause I know I'll have a headache for months fighting with them to get my bill and all the unwanted services they added back to what I wanted.

I can understand how much easier it is for you to get information now.

Frank said...

Skip Tracing Trick
Another skip tracing trick is to go to Zabasearch.com and in the red where it shows Search by SS#, click that button. It will take you to the Intelius site that has a box for SS # and a box for Last Name. We pop in the info about the subject and it gives cities the person lived in so if it showed Miami I would pretext Florida Power Light and determine if subject had current services. If subject had disconnected series, I would grab forwarding address, contact number or employment, anything available on the account.

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Donnell said...

Fantastic interview Cassy and Frank! My CP recently told me about a site that had all our information on it, and that we should protest and ask that they take it down. For mine, everything was wrong by a long shot (nothing derogatory just wrong) .... so... think I leave it up for disinformation purposes. Agree/disagree?

Frank said...

Donnell,

Good point, that is a key about skip tracing, the validity of the information. Just because it exist does not mean it is true. When out in public I try to avoid discussing what I do for a living because I almost always get “Hey I Googled my cousin and found them.” it drives me nuts. Just because the information is online does not make it valid or current.

Which brings me to Disinformation, creating bogus trails for predators to follow. Let them find the bogus Myspace that says my client lives in Utah or the bogus Linkedin that shows on their resume they are working in Seattle.

Sometime wrong information is the best.

Kaye George said...

Excellent information! Thanks so much. I may have a character disappearing soon.

Lindsay said...

Frank and Cassy,
Great interview and lots of good information. I've got two people disappearing in my book and what I've learned here will help.
The good news that in books 2 & 3 they get caught. Hey, they're bad guys.
Once again, thatnks for sharing your knowledge.

Cassy Pickard said...

Frank: Your reception has been great! Our stats counter shows that we've many many people checking in. I've also received private emails of how much people are enjoying your posts.

I do have a question: Have you ever had anyone who disappeared and then changed his/her mind, wanting to re-enter the old life? If so, are there problems rebuilding your identity after taking so much effort to pull it apart?

Frank said...

Cassy,

I do not change anyone’s identity, the government frowns on such things - they know how to ruin a good time. I have never had anyone return to their old life but had people back out when the process became over whelming.

Frank said...

New Identities

I find the idea of a new identity somewhat silly. The big question is how do you test it out? Does the new ID have a warrant, bad credit or a suspended license? The other issue to consider is the ID you obtained or purchased how do you know the person who sold it has not sold the same ID to ten other people.

Anita Clenney said...

Fascinating interview. Wow, the stories!! I wish I was writing a missing persons book. So much good material here. Thanks so much for sharing.

Cassy Pickard said...

Okay, Frank. If you don't change an identity, then how do I really disappear? I still have my SS# and my name. I get that you go to a totally new place, change habits, change jobs and so on. But wouldn't someone like you be able to find me in a New York minute?

Cassy Pickard said...

One more thing: Folks---Frank is featured on CNN today. Frank, please tell us about the interview and give us the URL to the broadcast.

We have a true star with us!

Frank said...

New Identities

The goal of disappearing is to become a virtual entity and the best way to do that is exist as a corporation. If you’re a licensed individual and make a living that way it could be an issue, however, if your someone who can work as a corporation that is better.

Disappearing is not easy but when a life is in danger we can figure ways of creating an insulation so the predator cannot locate you. Some people can work off the books and claim their taxes at the close of the year.

How you make your money is a key to figuring how to disappear.

Frank said...

Here is CNN viceo, scroll down. The story is all about privacy.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/04/14/oppmann.off.the.grid/index.html?hpt=C2

Frank said...

London Lenny

I got an email from a person who writes likes he just graduated the fifth grade, he tells me that he is from London and wants to relocate to South America. I ask him what his situation is; he tells me his life has been a trail of blood, knocked a few heads around spent sometime on the inside, gambled too much and just laid his eighty something year old mother to rest. Nevertheless, the troubles are behind him, if anything, Lenny was colorful.

Lenny wants to call me but I give my number to very few people. I ask for his and he tells me he does not have a phone. He gives me the number to a coin phone to call at a particular time. When I call a new client I pick up a prepaid phone and use a prepaid calling card and when finished dump the phone. one can never be to careful there are a lot of crazies out there and some who they always find me.

I call somewhere in London and it is a bar and very loud I am trying to explain to the bartender that I am looking for London Lenny. The bartender tells me there is no such person at the bar. I ask the bartender to inquire again and he yells at the top of his lungs. “Is London Lenny here?“ The bartender gets quiet on me and I hear him apologize to someone for cursing.

Lenny picks up the phone, he is rambling a mile a minute, the bar blaring and him in his cockney or what ever it is shooting out conversation beyond my understanding. What I get from him is his brother will be getting out of prison and Lenny had legal titled to the mothers insurance and property which he sold and his brother is going to kill him. He wants to set up some offshore bank accounts buy a house near the beach and disappear into the palm tree lifestyle.

Initially I was hesitant about Lenny but I found him fascinating also he wired me money right off the bat to assist him. Lenny also had a lawyer who was helping him with his mother’s affairs and such, Lenny put us in touch. The lawyer explained that Lenny is an old time south London street brawler and hood but has been out of trouble for several years. Lenny’s mother did in fact leave all assets to Lenny and most likely his brother was going to kill him for selling the house.

Lenny flies to California to meet with me, he stays at the Ritz Carlton in Laguna Nigel, which is beyond awesome. This was quite surreal Lenny could not speak one sentence with out cursing and he stared at anyone who looked at him cross. We lay out a plan for Lenny, we are going to set up a few IBC’s, International Business Corporations and he loves the idea of a black credit cards which are cards that list no transactions.

As the evening progresses we agree to work with each other, Lenny drops down three camouflage passports on the table. Lenny proceeds to tell me he has X amount of cold cash in a bag up in his room. I am thinking this guy is crazy. First thing I do is have him destroy the camouflage passport; customs frowns upon such especially when you’re carrying undeclared cash. We start from scratch I give him the name of a lawyer to call to assist him with his undeclared cash problem.

I suggested to Lenny that he travel and have photos taken of himself which can be turned into post cards. The post cards can be sent to his buddies in London and the word will get back to Lenny’s brother that he is traveling in different places. Lenny hits different parts of Europe and Africa snapping photos like crazy.

Lenny flew back to California to meet with me and finish up business with his lawyer.
I made the mistake of telling Lenny I am going on the road for two months driving cross-country. Lenny thought it would be a great idea if he joined me and used opportunity to snap more photos. Needless to say I got my kicks on 66 with London Lenny he gave me the disk with all the photos of him, and they were developed into postcards and eventually are mailed to his brother in prison.

Wolfgang A. Mozart said...

Thanks Cassy and Frank for a fascinating read. Frank, I think someone should write a series based on you!

Frank said...

Thank you Wolfgang.

Cassy Pickard said...

Folks: Our gracious guest has offered to check back in over the next hour or so (we're on the East Coast) and then we'll need to sign off for tonight. Even if we have moved to the dinner table, you all are more than welcome (please) to keep the discussion going.

Frank said...

I shall be here for a bit and if anyone has questions at another time drop me an email at privacyservice@earthlink.net.

Denise McDonald said...

So very fascinating! I am a little hesitant though to go to your website—can you track me back…LOL

Of course, as I ask this I realize DUH! my info is in the comment.

Thanks so much for sharing—my mind is whirling with ideas now!

Rochelle said...

Great interview, Frank!

Frank said...

Thank you all - time for me to disappear!

Frank

Cassy Pickard said...

Thank you, everyone for stopping by. It has been a fun day. Frank, you have been over-the-top great. I hope we can have you back.

Please do continue the conversation for those of you on different time zones or different dinner schedules.

What a great day!!

Clare2e said...

Terrific interview on a fascinating subject, and the comments are as good as the post!

Karin* said...

Fab info, Frank, thank you for sharing!

Karin* Tabke