
It is my pleasure to introduce my good friend and fellow published author, Edie Ramer to Mysteries and Margaritas today. Edie is here to tell you some exciting news about her career and to talk about traditional publishing versus self publishing. Things have changed so much in the publishing world over the past few years, and more and more authors are looking at this option. Edie is here to explain why she chose to go that route. She'll be checking in all day and will answer all your questions honestly. So, ask away after reading what she has to say about about all this.
Thanks so much to Liz L. and the M&M ladies for having me as your guest. I think Liz is a wise woman. Funny, too. Last Monday, she wrote a brilliant “Show Me the Money” post here. She said:
“In today’s economy, midlist authors are finding their advances shrinking and more and more authors are turning to epubs where they get no advance. Some are even going the self-publishing route, hoping to cash into that market in a JA Konrath sort of way. http://jakonrath.blogspot.com/”
(Waving hands wildly at the last one. Me, me, me!) Then she went on to say:
“I signed a three-book deal with a major publisher and pretty much got the average advance. Like any début author, I probably would have signed on the dotted line for much less just to see the printed book in my hands.”
Not too long ago, I would have said the same thing. Now I’d say no, at least to the “much less” part. The more I learn about indie publishing, the more possibilities I see and the more opportunities. I know of several indie writers who have turned down offers from the NY pubs. Not just because of the advance, but because of the low percentage they’re offered for digital books.
Zoe Winters is one of them. She was contracted by a NY agent who has read her novellas and wanted to represent her. Zoe turned her down. She openly admits she doesn’t play well with others, but that’s not the only thing. She’s making good money with her novellas. Yes, that’s right. Making good money with novellas. (She posts the amount on her blog every month. She used to post snapshots of her Kindle statements, but Amazon doesn’t allow people collecting 70% from their books to use snapshots anymore.)
70% is a great incentive. Much better than 8%. Or even 25%, which I believe is the norm for NY pubbed e-books. In addition, many industry watchers believe we’re nearing the tipping point from print books to e-books. I love print books, but the last few books I’ve bought have been digital, partly because of the ease and partly because I don’t live near a bookstore. And in digital books, romance is one of the biggest selling genres. One reason stated is because we can read the romances without fear that other people will see the sexy covers -- which is fodder for another blog.
With all this, why sign up with a publisher who makes you fight for every percentage point? The times are changing faster than Superman leaps tall buildings. Seth Godin recently announced that from now on he’s publishing his own books. A former book packager, he says the distribution system is antique and adds layers between the reader and the books.
You might think, “Easy for Seth Godin to turn his back on print. He’s a marketing guru.” But Karen McQuestion wasn’t published in print nor was she a marketing guru when she put her books on Kindle a little more than a year ago. Now she’s on the Kindle best-selling list and she has a movie deal.
Those are the highs. There are lows in digital books, too, but there are lows in print publishing. I know NY pubbed writers whose books either weren’t distributed in a timely manner or whose publisher printed less than they were promised. And if the books aren’t out there, you’re going to have low numbers, which will result in less money coming your way when the next contract comes around.
This is getting long, so I’ll just say that one of the best reasons to be an indie writer is that the money doesn’t flow to you through an agent or an editor. It comes directly to you in a timely manner. You don’t have to wait months for returns. And do you remember the 70% Kindle cut authors get? On Smashwords, it’s even more than that.
Though we’re in this business because we are storytellers and writing completes us more than Hugh Jackman ever could, we like money. And I like knowing that I’m the one in control of my career -- with a lot of help from the many writer friends who’ve helped me get to this point.
Despite everything I’ve said, if a NY editor offered to buy one of my books, I might say yes. I think a “tiered” approach is a good way to go. It would depend on the offer. I don’t know what will happen, but I’m loving the journey.
What do you think of all this? Has your view of indie publishing changed recently?
Edie Ramer
http://edieramer.com/
http://twitter.com/edieramer
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Edie loves her cat so much, she wrote a book about a cat who becomes a woman and keeps her cat attitude. Cattitude is available on Kindle and Smashwords http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/22350. Edie is co-founder of Write Attitude (www.writeattitude.net), an inspirational website for writers, and the popular group blog, Magical Musings (http://magicalmusings.com). scheduled 5:00:00 AM by Liz Lipperman Delete
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32 comments:
Edie, let me be the first to welcome you to M & M. I love that we have choices. I am on my way to board an airplane but I will be home later to check this out. And you can bet I will download Cattitufde then.
Thanks so much for sharing your story.
Awesome interview. Great story Edie. It's so hard to know what to do, especially when you first sell. I too would have signed away my life for free just to see my book on the shelves. This business is so crazy.
Liz, thanks again for inviting me. I love the choices too. I don't want to say "no" to any opportunity.
Kari, absolutely! So, we may as well make our own crazy. I think that's what a lot of us are doing.
Edie: Welcome! This is a great topic and so so timely. It's such a hard subject to figure out, especially for those of us who are used to a different publishing paradigm. You have spelled it so well. Again, thank you.
Cassy, thanks! I have so much more to say, but it would've been way too long. I know there are pros and cons, but sometimes you just have to do it. At least, that's how I felt. I reached my tipping point.
Edie, Thanks for joining us at M&M. Great article and eye opening. I appreciated reading all about other points of view. I also have some books with publisher who is not in NY. At least there are a lot of choices out there now. You just have to decide what is right for you.
Thanks!
Mary, e-pubs that also do print books are another way to go, too! Many of my friends are happy with their non-NY publishers. I'm going to check out your books.
This was a great interview and I enjoyed reading it. It is interesting to see what authors go through and the choices they have to make.
Glad Liz had you on today :)
Babs, thanks so much! It wasn't a fast process for me. I always imagined myself with a print book in my hand. But my mind slowly opened, and now I'm embracing indie publishing.
How and in what venue to be published is getting so confusing. I'm glad you're here to help with lifting the cloud so we can see what and where to get/be pubbed. I think I agree with you that we're near the tipping point between print and e-pub. I'm seeing more and more big authors having their books in digital first then a few months later the book come out in print.
I'm reading a RITA finalists book that I could only find in e-format. So I guess that says something about the industry.
I have to say that you've changed my mind about self-pubbing. I'm not ready to pub my MG novels, but I'm ready to pub my MG short stories. When I saw an article posted by another GIAMer about Nintendo DSi making their screens larger, PLUS downloading the 'classics', I decided THAT was the way to get the MG generation to read. And I also think my stories are cute, but short, almost like beginning chapter books. :-)
I'm reading a RITA finalists book that I could only find in e-format.
Lindsay, is the RITA finalist's book A Killing Tide by P.J. Alderman? I read it last week and loved it! It's great that she and other authors are able to put their backlist books online themselves. I wonder how many will make more money on the indie versions than the originals.
I'm ready to pub my MG short stories.
Go, Margaret! Go, go, go!
Edie, No, the book is Victoria Dahl's Talk Me Down. Totally fantastic and well worth a read. That coming from an author who doesn't read contemporary all that much. Her new regency series first book is just as good but I was able to get that one in print.
Lindsay, I'll look up Talk Me Down. It sounds familiar. If you get the chance, try A Killing Tide by P.J. Alderman. The one that's in Kindle. I loved it!
Awesome information, Edie! I might join the self published group soon.
And it's simple math. Sell an ebook for $3.00 with a 70% royalty you get more than selling the same in print for $6.99 @ 8%. And the overhead for ePub is a lot less
Mary, more of my friends are going indie! I'm excited! If you need any help, just email me.
Lindsay, absolutely. It's win-win. There are many reasons to go print, too. I'm not discounting that in my future. I'm just not planning to settle.
I'm back from Ohio and came home to no internet. It's finally back up.
I want to thank Edie for all the great comments and for hanging out with us today. I'm going to download Cattitude right now.
I just downloaded Cattitude. That was so cool seeing your name.
Folks, it only cost $2.99. where else can you get a good book for that price. And Kindle for my laptop was FREE!!~
Not to burst your bubble Liz but the Kindle app for my iPhone was also free
Well Edie looks like you've made at least two sales today just got Cattitdue for my iPhone
Liz, it was my pleasure to hang out here today! Thanks again for inviting me -- and for pimping my book. I should mention the price in my next blog. lol
And thanks for buying Cattitude. I hope you love it!
Lindsay, thank you! I hope you enjoy it!
Great story Edie! I'm sure we are going to see a lot more authors going this way as the industry goes the other way~upside down.
Great story Edie! I'm sure we are going to see a lot more authors going this way as the industry goes the other way~upside down.
Tonya, I know quite a few writers who are thinking of this. And not just the UF writers. A Pocket writer with a Uf and a YA series just told me she's going to put her short stories on Kindle.
I have a really good friend who's got 5 books pubbed with a major publishing house. Her agent couldn't sell two of her books, so the agency she's with opened up their own e publishing line for their authors who don't get their books sold. She's doing almost better than her print books. AND this is a huge NYC agency. WOW!
Tonya, that is awesome. Do you mind telling us what the name of the e-pub line or your friend's name is? I'd love to look at their books.
Great post. I've dipped my toe in self-publishing while still hoping for a traditional deal. I'm thrilled with the results. It has made me excited to write again, where I felt waiting was making me stagnant. I'm far from stagnant now. But some sleep would be nice. Headed over to check out Cattitude right now.
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